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		<title>Comment on Old/New Media: Bring Out Your Dead! by alittleclarity</title>
		<link>http://alittleclarity.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/oldnew-media-bring-out-your-dead/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>alittleclarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,
I agree with you -- one of my favorite aspects of the Internet is discovery.  I mean, you found me -- and I found you back, so to speak.

My issue isn&#039;t with old or new media, but with people who feel that only one kind of media is better. I just get impatient when anyone says there can be only one kind of media -- that one is &quot;old&quot; and one is &quot;new,&quot; and therefore is good or bad -- when really the newness or oldness comes from the mechanisms for discovery, as you point out -- not from satisfying reporting, storytelling  or analysis, wherever you find it.

I&#039;m hoping that we find a way to pay people to follow this path and still keep some standards and ethics in place -- the standards being taught in journalism school, still, today; that we reshape institutions like the Times or the Observer so that they can make money to keep producing the content that we all find and link to -- and yes, still support the independent blogs and vlogs and whatever&#039;s next.  A friend who blogs with an enormous following tweeted yesterday that she was offered $250 to blog on a particular topic.  She responded, &quot;why don&#039;t you just take out an ad and avoid all the weirdness and slime?&quot;  

Those are the kinds of things we&#039;ll all have to solve.  But comments like yours make me hopeful -- I know that a lot of smart, cool people with various perspectives are simmering on this and will eventually come up with something that catches on because it makes sense.
Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,<br />
I agree with you &#8212; one of my favorite aspects of the Internet is discovery.  I mean, you found me &#8212; and I found you back, so to speak.</p>
<p>My issue isn&#8217;t with old or new media, but with people who feel that only one kind of media is better. I just get impatient when anyone says there can be only one kind of media &#8212; that one is &#8220;old&#8221; and one is &#8220;new,&#8221; and therefore is good or bad &#8212; when really the newness or oldness comes from the mechanisms for discovery, as you point out &#8212; not from satisfying reporting, storytelling  or analysis, wherever you find it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that we find a way to pay people to follow this path and still keep some standards and ethics in place &#8212; the standards being taught in journalism school, still, today; that we reshape institutions like the Times or the Observer so that they can make money to keep producing the content that we all find and link to &#8212; and yes, still support the independent blogs and vlogs and whatever&#8217;s next.  A friend who blogs with an enormous following tweeted yesterday that she was offered $250 to blog on a particular topic.  She responded, &#8220;why don&#8217;t you just take out an ad and avoid all the weirdness and slime?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Those are the kinds of things we&#8217;ll all have to solve.  But comments like yours make me hopeful &#8212; I know that a lot of smart, cool people with various perspectives are simmering on this and will eventually come up with something that catches on because it makes sense.<br />
Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Old/New Media: Bring Out Your Dead! by emilywsussman</title>
		<link>http://alittleclarity.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/oldnew-media-bring-out-your-dead/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>emilywsussman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that all of &quot;new media&quot; (i.e. the HuffPo or Newser) is under any illusion that it could do without the content provided by &quot;old media.&quot; But they do provide a very valuable service to me: context and findability. 

Example: I&#039;ve come to appreciate the snappy headlines and insightful summaries produced by new/old hybrid sites like the New York Observer. Last week, the NYO titled one of its headline-links &quot;Times Investor Offers Advice to Arthur: Stop Sending Frank Bruni to Paris.&quot; Which, of course, was a witty (read: appealing) and incisive way to get me to read a Reuters&#039; blog entry about the behind-the-scenes of last week&#039;s New York Times board meeting.  

The NYO doesn&#039;t seem to archive its direct-link headlines. But you can find the cached page here (headline is halfway down scroll):
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:N3GYHwbaeBUJ:www.observer.com/index.php%3Fpage%3D2+observer+%22stop+sending+frank+bruni+to+texas%22&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a 

And the direct link to the Reuters&#039; blog post here:
(http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2009/04/23/help-the-new-york-times-save/) 

Okay. So. New York Observer: Context? (check) Findability? (check) Value to me? (check plus!)

Thanks for listening. 
Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that all of &#8220;new media&#8221; (i.e. the HuffPo or Newser) is under any illusion that it could do without the content provided by &#8220;old media.&#8221; But they do provide a very valuable service to me: context and findability. </p>
<p>Example: I&#8217;ve come to appreciate the snappy headlines and insightful summaries produced by new/old hybrid sites like the New York Observer. Last week, the NYO titled one of its headline-links &#8220;Times Investor Offers Advice to Arthur: Stop Sending Frank Bruni to Paris.&#8221; Which, of course, was a witty (read: appealing) and incisive way to get me to read a Reuters&#8217; blog entry about the behind-the-scenes of last week&#8217;s New York Times board meeting.  </p>
<p>The NYO doesn&#8217;t seem to archive its direct-link headlines. But you can find the cached page here (headline is halfway down scroll):<br />
<a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:N3GYHwbaeBUJ:www.observer.com/index.php%3Fpage%3D2+observer+%22stop+sending+frank+bruni+to+texas%22&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:N3GYHwbaeBUJ:www.observer.com/index.php%3Fpage%3D2+observer+%22stop+sending+frank+bruni+to+texas%22&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a</a> </p>
<p>And the direct link to the Reuters&#8217; blog post here:<br />
(<a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2009/04/23/help-the-new-york-times-save/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2009/04/23/help-the-new-york-times-save/</a>) </p>
<p>Okay. So. New York Observer: Context? (check) Findability? (check) Value to me? (check plus!)</p>
<p>Thanks for listening.<br />
Emily</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Save a Life: Humanizing Technology by David Kroll</title>
		<link>http://alittleclarity.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/how-to-save-a-life-humanizing-technology/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay is one of the kindest human beings in the world.  I was a postdoc when Jane was an endocrine fellow and I played in Dogs in the Yard with Jay from 1990 until 2001.  When I was flying back and forth between Denver and my new home in Durham, NC, Jay and Jane put me up at their house when I came back to teach - open door anytime, no questions asked.

Simply fabulous people.  I&#039;m so glad for you and your Dad that Dr. Reusch came into your lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay is one of the kindest human beings in the world.  I was a postdoc when Jane was an endocrine fellow and I played in Dogs in the Yard with Jay from 1990 until 2001.  When I was flying back and forth between Denver and my new home in Durham, NC, Jay and Jane put me up at their house when I came back to teach &#8211; open door anytime, no questions asked.</p>
<p>Simply fabulous people.  I&#8217;m so glad for you and your Dad that Dr. Reusch came into your lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Smart People Are Still Pondering This Old/New Media Thing by Old/New Media: Bring Out Your Dead! &#171; Alittleclarity&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old/New Media: Bring Out Your Dead! &#171; Alittleclarity&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So put away the Harry Potter books, okay?  This is not a situation where one kind of media must die  in order for the other to survive.   (See: he&#8217;s dead Jim!) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So put away the Harry Potter books, okay?  This is not a situation where one kind of media must die  in order for the other to survive.   (See: he&#8217;s dead Jim!) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Google Make Us Stupid? Let me count the ways by alittleclarity</title>
		<link>http://alittleclarity.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/does-google-make-us-stupid-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>alittleclarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ted,
Coincidentally, I just saw something... today.  But I was doing so much research, I only had time to think, &quot;oh, hey, that&#039;s like the Google post,&quot; and then it was on to the next thing.  

I will look for a couple more resources and send them to you/and post them tomorrow.  
Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted,<br />
Coincidentally, I just saw something&#8230; today.  But I was doing so much research, I only had time to think, &#8220;oh, hey, that&#8217;s like the Google post,&#8221; and then it was on to the next thing.  </p>
<p>I will look for a couple more resources and send them to you/and post them tomorrow.<br />
Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Burrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading through this article, I just feel that I   need more information on the topic. Could you suggest some more resources please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading through this article, I just feel that I   need more information on the topic. Could you suggest some more resources please?</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Michael Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your site! :)

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		<title>Comment on Why Smart People Are Still Pondering This Old/New Media Thing by alittleclarity</title>
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		<dc:creator>alittleclarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to draw attention to a post written in response to Peter Osnos.  &quot;Google is Not Your Sugar Daddy.&quot;  The post itself is provocative, if a little self-righteous -- but the discussion in the comments will give you more new ideas, no matter on which side of the argument you fall.  http://gigaom.com/2009/02/03/google-is-not-your-sugar-daddy/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to draw attention to a post written in response to Peter Osnos.  &#8220;Google is Not Your Sugar Daddy.&#8221;  The post itself is provocative, if a little self-righteous &#8212; but the discussion in the comments will give you more new ideas, no matter on which side of the argument you fall.  <a href="http://gigaom.com/2009/02/03/google-is-not-your-sugar-daddy/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/2009/02/03/google-is-not-your-sugar-daddy/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Smart People Are Still Pondering This Old/New Media Thing by alittleclarity</title>
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		<dc:creator>alittleclarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
As always - very thoughtful input.  I agree that sometimes we just deride old media for being &quot;old,&quot; and that the economy is at least one factor.  (I&#039;m encouraged that even Chris Anderson, if you go to his piece, says that Free is maybe unrealistic in this economy.)

I&#039;m feeling guardedly optimistic that the free market and great minds being brought to bear will yield a solution -- some kind of hybrid, partially-paid, partially free, or micropayment-based answer that will let all aspects of publishing thrive.

Of course, that&#039;s what the editor of Publisher&#039;s Weekly wrote, and then she was alid off the following Monday.  
Thanks for the comments - so smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
As always &#8211; very thoughtful input.  I agree that sometimes we just deride old media for being &#8220;old,&#8221; and that the economy is at least one factor.  (I&#8217;m encouraged that even Chris Anderson, if you go to his piece, says that Free is maybe unrealistic in this economy.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m feeling guardedly optimistic that the free market and great minds being brought to bear will yield a solution &#8212; some kind of hybrid, partially-paid, partially free, or micropayment-based answer that will let all aspects of publishing thrive.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s what the editor of Publisher&#8217;s Weekly wrote, and then she was alid off the following Monday.<br />
Thanks for the comments &#8211; so smart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Smart People Are Still Pondering This Old/New Media Thing by Michael Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economy clearly is having a chilling effect on the newspaper industry. As much as we like to deride &#039;old&#039; media for being old, and as challenged as it is, the bigger issue is that the business model of advertising is in complete flux. No one in any mass media seems to know how to value media consumers -- it&#039;s almost never been about the content, and now that&#039;s even more true.

Chris Anderson&#039;s original arguments in favor of &#039;freeconomics&#039; seemed badly flawed at the time -- I seriously doubted that he would have published the same ideas from someone else. They make even less sense now.  At the same time, we&#039;re on the brink of seeing elements of a barter economy return.  Of course, bartering doesn&#039;t help companies stay in business.

But then, I&#039;ve never been a fan of the idea of free stuff. I&#039;m biased -- I draw from personal experience on the ills of free content. When I was at redherring.com and we developed our &#039;breaking analysis&#039; approach to the news, we gave it away.  Hugo Dixon started Breaking Views at about the same time, and charged for his content. Breaking Views is still around.  Red Herring has died twice.

There are other organizations that charge for content, and do not give things away on the Web. I think they will be best able to get through the recession.  If that&#039;s right, they&#039;ll be the ones to develop a model for content. They may be able to amass the capital needed to take over the best of today&#039;s newspapers and make them work. There will still be lots of freely available content; the mixed model adopted by the Wall Street Journal and the Economist will probably spread. And I&#039;m sure that some of the big blogging sites will find ways to profit, especially those that can develop young, inexpensive talent (as I&#039;ve said before, it&#039;s a great time to be a journalist, just a lousy time to have kids and a mortgage).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economy clearly is having a chilling effect on the newspaper industry. As much as we like to deride &#8216;old&#8217; media for being old, and as challenged as it is, the bigger issue is that the business model of advertising is in complete flux. No one in any mass media seems to know how to value media consumers &#8212; it&#8217;s almost never been about the content, and now that&#8217;s even more true.</p>
<p>Chris Anderson&#8217;s original arguments in favor of &#8216;freeconomics&#8217; seemed badly flawed at the time &#8212; I seriously doubted that he would have published the same ideas from someone else. They make even less sense now.  At the same time, we&#8217;re on the brink of seeing elements of a barter economy return.  Of course, bartering doesn&#8217;t help companies stay in business.</p>
<p>But then, I&#8217;ve never been a fan of the idea of free stuff. I&#8217;m biased &#8212; I draw from personal experience on the ills of free content. When I was at redherring.com and we developed our &#8216;breaking analysis&#8217; approach to the news, we gave it away.  Hugo Dixon started Breaking Views at about the same time, and charged for his content. Breaking Views is still around.  Red Herring has died twice.</p>
<p>There are other organizations that charge for content, and do not give things away on the Web. I think they will be best able to get through the recession.  If that&#8217;s right, they&#8217;ll be the ones to develop a model for content. They may be able to amass the capital needed to take over the best of today&#8217;s newspapers and make them work. There will still be lots of freely available content; the mixed model adopted by the Wall Street Journal and the Economist will probably spread. And I&#8217;m sure that some of the big blogging sites will find ways to profit, especially those that can develop young, inexpensive talent (as I&#8217;ve said before, it&#8217;s a great time to be a journalist, just a lousy time to have kids and a mortgage).</p>
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